scem0
Sep 15, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by atomwork
Hi scem0,
how do you do this to keep up with the programs if you switch every couple years from one system to the other. And isn't it confusing in your workflow or are u just a consumer user. If so then the power ain't matter my friend.
Cheers,
Dave
I am definitelynot a 'power user', but I am a hardcore gamer. And when I see a friend with a year old PC playin Warcraft with less jumpiness then my 6 month old powermac, it makes me want to switch. Power does matter to me, and you cant get much power for the amount of money I have when it comes to computers from apple.
Hi scem0,
how do you do this to keep up with the programs if you switch every couple years from one system to the other. And isn't it confusing in your workflow or are u just a consumer user. If so then the power ain't matter my friend.
Cheers,
Dave
I am definitelynot a 'power user', but I am a hardcore gamer. And when I see a friend with a year old PC playin Warcraft with less jumpiness then my 6 month old powermac, it makes me want to switch. Power does matter to me, and you cant get much power for the amount of money I have when it comes to computers from apple.
benixau
Oct 10, 12:07 PM
maybe, anyway I tell my buddies that a mac works. It is great to have all that speed but here is a thought:
I have a PC that is really 5x as fast as a mac
I spend 5x as long setting it up as i do the mac
I am also 5x less productive on it then a mac as it keeps breaking
I may not be a great mathematician but 5x5 = 25. 25x less usable than a mac. Personal experience proves this.
Long Live King Mac!! Long Live King Mac!!
For the dark side to wonder at how easy I get my life done
I have a PC that is really 5x as fast as a mac
I spend 5x as long setting it up as i do the mac
I am also 5x less productive on it then a mac as it keeps breaking
I may not be a great mathematician but 5x5 = 25. 25x less usable than a mac. Personal experience proves this.
Long Live King Mac!! Long Live King Mac!!
For the dark side to wonder at how easy I get my life done
DakotaGuy
Oct 8, 08:47 PM
Who really gives a damn?
I would rather be sitting at my "old" iMac DV with a sllllloooow 400Mhz G3 then my buddies new 2. whatever GHz Wintel computer. Why you might ask? Because mine works and works right everytime. He has already had his back to the store 3 times for service and faulty components, not to mention problems with XP. In fact, I can get more done in less time, because I have never experienced any downtime with my Mac. For the last 3 years it has never failed me once, never re-loaded the OS only upgraded it, and never had any hardware problems. Everyone says Apple's hardware is junk because it is not as fast. Okay so maybe you can buy a cheap PC with 2 million GHz, but I can tell you in the end the Apple will outlast it and be more productive.
Downtime and OS problems cause a lot more downtime, then a couple of seconds here and there. You complain about Mac speed, but what if, like most PC's Apple only cared about speed and not overall hardware and software quality...all we would have is a fast POS IMHO.
So as I might get flamed for this post, get off Apple's back. Their products are not the pieces of crap everyone on here tries to make them out to be. You pay more for Apple because they don't sacrifice quality. If you want only speed and don't care about software, OS, or hardware quality, then why are you here??? Get a cheapo PC. The new Macs are not slow computers, sure there are some PC's that are a little faster and win the old GHz race, but when you make a purchase you have to look at the entire picture. Look at everything the machine offers, value, quality, style, longevity, productivity, etc... Apple is better.
I would rather be sitting at my "old" iMac DV with a sllllloooow 400Mhz G3 then my buddies new 2. whatever GHz Wintel computer. Why you might ask? Because mine works and works right everytime. He has already had his back to the store 3 times for service and faulty components, not to mention problems with XP. In fact, I can get more done in less time, because I have never experienced any downtime with my Mac. For the last 3 years it has never failed me once, never re-loaded the OS only upgraded it, and never had any hardware problems. Everyone says Apple's hardware is junk because it is not as fast. Okay so maybe you can buy a cheap PC with 2 million GHz, but I can tell you in the end the Apple will outlast it and be more productive.
Downtime and OS problems cause a lot more downtime, then a couple of seconds here and there. You complain about Mac speed, but what if, like most PC's Apple only cared about speed and not overall hardware and software quality...all we would have is a fast POS IMHO.
So as I might get flamed for this post, get off Apple's back. Their products are not the pieces of crap everyone on here tries to make them out to be. You pay more for Apple because they don't sacrifice quality. If you want only speed and don't care about software, OS, or hardware quality, then why are you here??? Get a cheapo PC. The new Macs are not slow computers, sure there are some PC's that are a little faster and win the old GHz race, but when you make a purchase you have to look at the entire picture. Look at everything the machine offers, value, quality, style, longevity, productivity, etc... Apple is better.
vniow
Aug 28, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by galstaph
So until then we should just take what we can get and be happy we are'nt running winblowz XP :D :D
Wish I could say that. Maybe by next week I'll get Mandrake optimized so I can be M$ free! Yay!
So until then we should just take what we can get and be happy we are'nt running winblowz XP :D :D
Wish I could say that. Maybe by next week I'll get Mandrake optimized so I can be M$ free! Yay!
MacSA
Oct 23, 11:17 AM
I got version 3 on a PC magazine cover CD for free, is it possible to get a similar version free for Mac?
Vlade
Nov 23, 10:50 PM
What's our team number, and anything else I need to set it up?
Team Macrumors is 3446 , and your username is ...um.... mAc-Vlade :D ;)
Check out the FAQ here - http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=21908
Team Macrumors is 3446 , and your username is ...um.... mAc-Vlade :D ;)
Check out the FAQ here - http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=21908
theoarno
Dec 20, 09:57 AM
I just started folding with a Quad Core Mac PRO
with the
Mac OS X
(Intel)
SMP client w/
Installer
From first glances it is taking about 4min 45sec to complete one percent of the unit. When the Credit came across my folding account it appeared at 1 Processor
the time limit for the unit is about 2 days so this should get them done in about 9 hours when the computer is not doing other tasks.
with the
Mac OS X
(Intel)
SMP client w/
Installer
From first glances it is taking about 4min 45sec to complete one percent of the unit. When the Credit came across my folding account it appeared at 1 Processor
the time limit for the unit is about 2 days so this should get them done in about 9 hours when the computer is not doing other tasks.
BollywooD
May 15, 07:23 AM
have you seen the specs on this!
200G HDD! :eek:
blu-ray cant be far from the mac platform.
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2934
200G HDD! :eek:
blu-ray cant be far from the mac platform.
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2934
vibinc
Oct 21, 10:34 AM
Stock levels at Club Mac, which posts inventory levels on the item's page are currently:
800Mhz-271
667Mhz-104
This is down from 460 and 275 respectively, from two weeks ago.
800Mhz-271
667Mhz-104
This is down from 460 and 275 respectively, from two weeks ago.
HungrySeacow
Mar 24, 02:11 AM
Just wanted to let everyone know that the new Airport Extreme Base Station works fine with DS!
You may not be able to use WEP/WPA/WPA2 with it, though.
What I did (and usually do with wireless routers) is instead of turning on a security protocol, I enable Access Control and then add the MAC addresses of all devices that should be allowed to connect.
To do this with the Airport Utility, you'll first need to select the device in the main window, then choose the Base Station > Manual Setup option from the menubar.
The first section you should see will be the "Airport" category, which will be on the Summary tab. Choose the right-most tab labelled "Access Control".
Set "MAC Address Access Control" to "Timed Access"
By default you should only have one item listed in the table, "(default)" - this will need to be Edited with the limit set to "No Access" (this will ensure no devices can connect unless they are specifically in the list)
Now, click "+" to add a new entry to the list. This first item should be the computer you are using. There is a handy "This Computer" button that will get the MAC address of your computer automatically. Click it. Type in a Description, then click done.
Next, add another entry for you DS...
To get you DS MAC address, insert a Wi-Fi enabled game, and go to the Wi-Fi Settings option (I used Tetris DS). Go to Options > System Information. There you will see the MAC address of that DS.
Once you have finished adding all the MAC addresses that need access, click the "Update" button and wait for the changes to be saved and the router to be restarted.
Once done, there is one final step needed to get your DS online. You'll need to go to Wi-Fi Settings from within a game, and create a new connection. You should already know how to do this if you've used your DS online before. Just click an empty slot, and wait for the DS to find your network, then save. Done!
Hope that helps someone!
I don't know why apple doesn't have this in any of the docs, but you can enable normal 128 or 40 bit WEB by holding the option key down when selecting the encryption type in the popup menu. It will disable wireless-N, but then the DS can connect securely.
You may not be able to use WEP/WPA/WPA2 with it, though.
What I did (and usually do with wireless routers) is instead of turning on a security protocol, I enable Access Control and then add the MAC addresses of all devices that should be allowed to connect.
To do this with the Airport Utility, you'll first need to select the device in the main window, then choose the Base Station > Manual Setup option from the menubar.
The first section you should see will be the "Airport" category, which will be on the Summary tab. Choose the right-most tab labelled "Access Control".
Set "MAC Address Access Control" to "Timed Access"
By default you should only have one item listed in the table, "(default)" - this will need to be Edited with the limit set to "No Access" (this will ensure no devices can connect unless they are specifically in the list)
Now, click "+" to add a new entry to the list. This first item should be the computer you are using. There is a handy "This Computer" button that will get the MAC address of your computer automatically. Click it. Type in a Description, then click done.
Next, add another entry for you DS...
To get you DS MAC address, insert a Wi-Fi enabled game, and go to the Wi-Fi Settings option (I used Tetris DS). Go to Options > System Information. There you will see the MAC address of that DS.
Once you have finished adding all the MAC addresses that need access, click the "Update" button and wait for the changes to be saved and the router to be restarted.
Once done, there is one final step needed to get your DS online. You'll need to go to Wi-Fi Settings from within a game, and create a new connection. You should already know how to do this if you've used your DS online before. Just click an empty slot, and wait for the DS to find your network, then save. Done!
Hope that helps someone!
I don't know why apple doesn't have this in any of the docs, but you can enable normal 128 or 40 bit WEB by holding the option key down when selecting the encryption type in the popup menu. It will disable wireless-N, but then the DS can connect securely.
scem0
Sep 20, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by jefhatfield
i hear some of your points scem 0,
but when os x really grows up with "enough" industry support...or until i stop hearing complaints because apple finally got it "right";
and when macs go 2 ghz;
then who will care if wintels go 3.5 ghz?
will speed be a major issue then?
or will we have to catch up with the wintel world, ghz for ghz? (which i doubt will be necessary once ALL computers are faster than the needs of people)
Exactly why I am still with mac. Just waiting until speed isnt an issue, because all comps will be fast as hell, and OS is more important. Waiting for that and a real Kazaa client for mac (and not iSwipe)...
i hear some of your points scem 0,
but when os x really grows up with "enough" industry support...or until i stop hearing complaints because apple finally got it "right";
and when macs go 2 ghz;
then who will care if wintels go 3.5 ghz?
will speed be a major issue then?
or will we have to catch up with the wintel world, ghz for ghz? (which i doubt will be necessary once ALL computers are faster than the needs of people)
Exactly why I am still with mac. Just waiting until speed isnt an issue, because all comps will be fast as hell, and OS is more important. Waiting for that and a real Kazaa client for mac (and not iSwipe)...
jvaska
Mar 29, 02:05 AM
FF renders forms element ugly as heck...sure there is a hack to help it out there but it's still not the best. As far as I can tell FF is faster, but overall the feel of things is not as smooth as Safari.
D*I*S_Frontman
Oct 10, 08:34 AM
I love my Macs. I love OS X. Having a reliable machine running unobtrusively and intuitively makes me more productive and lets me enjoy the process more.
That being said, I am now pretty much immune to the reality distortion field that surrounds Steve Jobs. High-end Macs are dog-slow at most things when compared with high-end AMD/Intel offerings. On the occasional perfectly-tweaked AltiVec intensive tasks a Dual G4 can just barely eek out a frog hair margin victory over the competition. Otherwise they get smoked.
The software side of Apple is doing great things, however. When good ol' Steve said Apple would be "innovating" its way through the recession, this has got to be what he meant. And they are succeeding on that front. OS X spanks all comers when it comes to features, interface, and stability. NO contest.
I think everyone knows that the latest Mac offerings are stop-gap measures. Steve is treading water calmly, trying not to panic, waiting on his two primary chip manifacturers, IBM and Motorola, to deliver the real world processors the R&D has been promising for some time now and rescue Apple.
Not to say Apple is in immediate financial trouble. With Steve at the helm, Apple will continue to be profitable. Apple is in serious credibility trouble, however, among professionals due to lackluster performance. 100mhz mobos are a complete joke for $1k + systems and 167mhz top speed with crippled DDR as the best available? Yikes.
Mac people don't expect the world. We just want machines on par with the rest of the computing world, because we KNOW we already have far and away the best OS working environment. We just don't have that right now. It is my hope that IBM will charge in like the Cavalry and drop a powerful new chip in Apple's lap that will bring Macs right back to the top performance-wise.
Then those switch ads will have some teeth.
That being said, I am now pretty much immune to the reality distortion field that surrounds Steve Jobs. High-end Macs are dog-slow at most things when compared with high-end AMD/Intel offerings. On the occasional perfectly-tweaked AltiVec intensive tasks a Dual G4 can just barely eek out a frog hair margin victory over the competition. Otherwise they get smoked.
The software side of Apple is doing great things, however. When good ol' Steve said Apple would be "innovating" its way through the recession, this has got to be what he meant. And they are succeeding on that front. OS X spanks all comers when it comes to features, interface, and stability. NO contest.
I think everyone knows that the latest Mac offerings are stop-gap measures. Steve is treading water calmly, trying not to panic, waiting on his two primary chip manifacturers, IBM and Motorola, to deliver the real world processors the R&D has been promising for some time now and rescue Apple.
Not to say Apple is in immediate financial trouble. With Steve at the helm, Apple will continue to be profitable. Apple is in serious credibility trouble, however, among professionals due to lackluster performance. 100mhz mobos are a complete joke for $1k + systems and 167mhz top speed with crippled DDR as the best available? Yikes.
Mac people don't expect the world. We just want machines on par with the rest of the computing world, because we KNOW we already have far and away the best OS working environment. We just don't have that right now. It is my hope that IBM will charge in like the Cavalry and drop a powerful new chip in Apple's lap that will bring Macs right back to the top performance-wise.
Then those switch ads will have some teeth.
MacCoaster
Oct 13, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Nipsy
PCs maybe catching up on stability (I stop at Win2k Pro), but they are losing on Privacy, Fair Use, extensibility, programmability, style, ease of use. and productivity.
Well, wow. How uneducated you are.
You don't lose privacy, fair use, extensibility, programmability, style, ease of use, and productivity on PCs. I run Windows XP, Linux, FreeBSD, and Mac OS 7.6.1 on my Athlon 1400MHz. I don't lose those things you mention while using Linux or FreeBSD. Hell, I don't lose them even in Windows. I know what to avoid.
Extensibility. Let's see. Have you ever looked at the Microsoft.NET platform? It's an excellent platform for development. Microsoft.NET completely replaces their old ****ty Win32. In fact, Microsoft.NET isn't even tied to Win32. I run implementations of Microsoft.NET on Linux and FreeBSD. Microsoft.NET is the, if not one of the, most extensible application programming framework ever engineered. It takes the concept of SUN's Java and made it an unified framework for several specific languages of which are designed for specific types of programming, for example, C# should be used for general applications programming, VB.NET should be used for quick and simple solutions, JScript.NET for scripting, Eiffel.NET for mathematics, Delphi.NET for whatever Delphi was for. Best of all, you can even program dll's in separate languages and combine them in one powerful program. That's some serious leveraging you don't have in UNIX without making wrappers for each language. Microsoft has said bye bye to dll hell (Microsoft.NET actually adopts the UNIX versioning system. Before, it was conflicting versions of dll's that couldn't be installed at the same time. But now, you can have multiple dll's and no dll hell) Besides, I also run *n?x on my PC, that's extreme extensibility by using free OSes. I get benefits of UNIX on my PC as well.
Style. You're saying that PC users don't have style? Maybe their style is to buy affordable computers, run them fast, get **** done. Various people have different style flavors.
Ease of use. Windows XP is easy enough. Hell, command line UNIX is easy for me to use. Sure Mac OS X might be easier to use than Windows XP. But seriously, who cares. Windows has an established GUI that many people know how to use.
Productivity. Mac OS X is the worst OS for productivity at least for me. It's so frickin' slow drawing all the eye candy crap. At least in Windows XP you can turn them off. Ease of use does not necessarily equate to productivity. Ease of use *AND* GUI responsiveness sum to equate mostly what productivity. Windows XP has both. Mac OS X has only the ease of use while people need huge amounts of RAM on a lower end Mac to run it at least fast enough. Windows XP is usable on a Pentium II 233MHz with 128MB RAM just fine. Windows XP has less BSODs these days, but when they do occur, it's usually memory corruption. That's what you get for not using top notch RAM. I've had people who have gotten kernel panics as much as BSODs. Myself, I haven't gotten a single BSOD since my install of Windows XP except when I overclocked my CPU, but that's not XP's fault. XP even ran when Linux wouldn't boot with 1400MHz@1522MHz.
By the way, the PC is not Windows. Windows is an operating system. The PC is a collection of computer components independent from OSes. So don't dare to say PCs are catching up in stability--they're already friggin' stable.
I simply use what makes me productive. The only reason I'm a Mac guy is because I'm a PC, Sun, IBM (POWER4), etc. guy who likes to have and play with them all. In fact, my first computer was IIsi--they kicked ass back then. They still kick ass today IMHO so I still have old Macs around to tinker around to have fun.
PCs maybe catching up on stability (I stop at Win2k Pro), but they are losing on Privacy, Fair Use, extensibility, programmability, style, ease of use. and productivity.
Well, wow. How uneducated you are.
You don't lose privacy, fair use, extensibility, programmability, style, ease of use, and productivity on PCs. I run Windows XP, Linux, FreeBSD, and Mac OS 7.6.1 on my Athlon 1400MHz. I don't lose those things you mention while using Linux or FreeBSD. Hell, I don't lose them even in Windows. I know what to avoid.
Extensibility. Let's see. Have you ever looked at the Microsoft.NET platform? It's an excellent platform for development. Microsoft.NET completely replaces their old ****ty Win32. In fact, Microsoft.NET isn't even tied to Win32. I run implementations of Microsoft.NET on Linux and FreeBSD. Microsoft.NET is the, if not one of the, most extensible application programming framework ever engineered. It takes the concept of SUN's Java and made it an unified framework for several specific languages of which are designed for specific types of programming, for example, C# should be used for general applications programming, VB.NET should be used for quick and simple solutions, JScript.NET for scripting, Eiffel.NET for mathematics, Delphi.NET for whatever Delphi was for. Best of all, you can even program dll's in separate languages and combine them in one powerful program. That's some serious leveraging you don't have in UNIX without making wrappers for each language. Microsoft has said bye bye to dll hell (Microsoft.NET actually adopts the UNIX versioning system. Before, it was conflicting versions of dll's that couldn't be installed at the same time. But now, you can have multiple dll's and no dll hell) Besides, I also run *n?x on my PC, that's extreme extensibility by using free OSes. I get benefits of UNIX on my PC as well.
Style. You're saying that PC users don't have style? Maybe their style is to buy affordable computers, run them fast, get **** done. Various people have different style flavors.
Ease of use. Windows XP is easy enough. Hell, command line UNIX is easy for me to use. Sure Mac OS X might be easier to use than Windows XP. But seriously, who cares. Windows has an established GUI that many people know how to use.
Productivity. Mac OS X is the worst OS for productivity at least for me. It's so frickin' slow drawing all the eye candy crap. At least in Windows XP you can turn them off. Ease of use does not necessarily equate to productivity. Ease of use *AND* GUI responsiveness sum to equate mostly what productivity. Windows XP has both. Mac OS X has only the ease of use while people need huge amounts of RAM on a lower end Mac to run it at least fast enough. Windows XP is usable on a Pentium II 233MHz with 128MB RAM just fine. Windows XP has less BSODs these days, but when they do occur, it's usually memory corruption. That's what you get for not using top notch RAM. I've had people who have gotten kernel panics as much as BSODs. Myself, I haven't gotten a single BSOD since my install of Windows XP except when I overclocked my CPU, but that's not XP's fault. XP even ran when Linux wouldn't boot with 1400MHz@1522MHz.
By the way, the PC is not Windows. Windows is an operating system. The PC is a collection of computer components independent from OSes. So don't dare to say PCs are catching up in stability--they're already friggin' stable.
I simply use what makes me productive. The only reason I'm a Mac guy is because I'm a PC, Sun, IBM (POWER4), etc. guy who likes to have and play with them all. In fact, my first computer was IIsi--they kicked ass back then. They still kick ass today IMHO so I still have old Macs around to tinker around to have fun.
me hate windows
May 20, 10:07 PM
I'm a bit confused. Would this enable me to access my email inbox in a browser that is being served by OS X Server, so i could access it like gmail instead of just Thunderbird or Mail?:confused:
Edit: Let me rephrase that, because it doesn't make much sense. I have OS X Server set up as a web and mail server. I can access my email with Mail and Thunderbird. Could I install RoundCube and access my email with a web browser like you can with GMail or Yahoo?
Looks good, btw.
Edit: Let me rephrase that, because it doesn't make much sense. I have OS X Server set up as a web and mail server. I can access my email with Mail and Thunderbird. Could I install RoundCube and access my email with a web browser like you can with GMail or Yahoo?
Looks good, btw.
Durandal7
Aug 28, 06:46 PM
Most of us didn't need an Apple rep to tell us it was a fake. Spymac will always be disreputable in my mind because of that incident.
SPUY767
Apr 19, 04:05 PM
DO NOT install this bad boy if you still have work to get done for the day. Install it before you go to bed. It may sound odd, but Tiger runs slowly for the first eight hours of uptime or so because Spotlight is indexing the hard drive. And in addition to that, users need to try and not run any apps while spotlight is indexing because it puts undue stress on the hard drives. After spotlight indexes tho, WHEW! Flaming. Everything I do is just that much faster, and H.264 is the absolute bomb. Less than 2 megs per second for way better than DVD quality video. Anyway, the 29th is coming.
evildead
Mar 7, 06:38 PM
Remember when eyelikeart organized a "geek fest"? I don't remember where it was but I think there was only one. I didn't attend but, that was a diffrent time for this community.
Dane D.
Jun 16, 10:35 AM
My 867 mhz G4 PB takes 15 hours to crunch a unit....I thought that was decent, but if your 450mhz G4's are crunching a unit at 12-14 hrs that would make my PB really slow. huh. And yes, I have it at maximum processor.
Those 2 G4/450's run SETI in blank screen mode and do nothing else that is why they can complete units faster.
Those 2 G4/450's run SETI in blank screen mode and do nothing else that is why they can complete units faster.
MacCoaster
Oct 9, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by Backtothemac
Dude, I am a microsoft certified professional and spend all day dealing with PC problems. I have worked on the slowest ones and the fastest ones. The dual power macs fly! On top of that they do not run winblows. PC's suck because of the OS period. My mind will never be changed on that because I have almost 2 decades of dealing with Microsoft's crap!
Then use FreeBSD on the PC. FreeBSD ****in' flies. PCs don't suck. A particular OS does.
Dude, I am a microsoft certified professional and spend all day dealing with PC problems. I have worked on the slowest ones and the fastest ones. The dual power macs fly! On top of that they do not run winblows. PC's suck because of the OS period. My mind will never be changed on that because I have almost 2 decades of dealing with Microsoft's crap!
Then use FreeBSD on the PC. FreeBSD ****in' flies. PCs don't suck. A particular OS does.
Blue Velvet
Apr 5, 09:18 AM
And so it begins...
*no, we're not desperate, not at all*
*no, we're not desperate, not at all*
macMonte
Mar 23, 07:00 PM
Has anyone been able to get Starcraft: Broodwar running on any Intel Mac? I would love to run it on my Mac Pro, but only the original Starcraft seems to work. Thanks to anyone who can help.
Nitromaster
Mar 25, 07:29 AM
Wirelessly posted (Nokia N70-3 Ireland-Opera: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; WiderWeb 5.4.08) Opera 8.54)
any know good ones for programs?
I know there is ones for firefox and google earth. Anyone have any good ideas of what you could do with a wii remote on a pc?
any know good ones for programs?
I know there is ones for firefox and google earth. Anyone have any good ideas of what you could do with a wii remote on a pc?
vniow
Sep 4, 09:32 PM
When did Macrumors start actually?